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开发者批评AI增加了代码库的复杂性

一位软件开发者认为,AI工具虽然看似有用,但会引入不必要的复杂性和样板代码,最终阻碍开发而非帮助开发。该开发者认为,软件开发中的核心问题源于对程序功能和状态的理解不足,而AI自动生成样板代码的倾向会掩盖这些根本性问题。这一观点与当前行业采用复杂框架和AI驱动解决方案的主流趋势形成对比,该开发者认为这会导致代码库的可维护性和可理解性降低。 AI

影响 表明AI工具可能会增加代码复杂性并阻碍理解,与其预期益处背道而驰。

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  1. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    我能看出我正在看一个新代码库时,作者是:A)深深植根于硅谷文化和行业,还是 B)只是有点自学成才

    I can tell when I'm looking at a new codebase whether the author: A) is deeply entrenched in Silicon Valley culture and industry, or B) just kinda self-taught themselves software Not by their code quality, but by how much extra bullshit their codebase has strapped onto it. #AI

  2. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    但我记得我无法让人们同意,为了给程序添加路由或组件而需要创建 3 个文件是一个严重的问题。所以它不是

    But I remember that I couldn't get people to agree that needing to create 3 files to add a route or a component to your program is a serious issue. So it's not super surprising that it's hard to get them to understand that automating that is also kind of a problem for the same re…

  3. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    但这也部分解释了为什么我认为程序员在这方面存在脱节。对我来说,AI 在这些任务上为何糟糕是显而易见的,因为

    But it's also sort of about why I think there's a disconnect between programmers on this. It is so totally obvious to me why AI is bad for these tasks, because in general, BOILERPLATE is bad. This stuff should feel bad to use because it's a sign something is wrong with your codeb…

  4. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    反正这一切都与人工智能无关,但实际上字面意义上的一切都与人工智能有关,以及为什么即使这玩意儿不那么不道德,我仍然不会

    Anyway none of this has been about AI, but actually literally ALL of it is about AI, and about why how even if this shit wasn't so unethical, I still wouldn't let it touch my codebases. "Ah, but AI can help EXPLAIN-" If you need it to do that, your code is too complex. Fix your c…

  5. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    软件中绝大多数的 bug 来自于:A) 不理解程序实际在做什么 B) 不理解其当前状态 一切

    The VAST majority of bugs in software come from: A) not understanding what a program is ACTUALLY doing B) not understanding what its current state is EVERYTHING becomes easier when you address those problems. But this is actually a really surprisingly contentious thing to say. #A…

  6. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    但我会因为这些事情受到很多阻力。我们不能有一个单一的数据源,我们必须有一个将状态传递到 React 树中的框架,然后...

    But I would get SO much pushback about this stuff. We can't have a singleton data source, we gotta have a framework that passes state down the React tree and makes it impossible to do efficient rendering. We can't connect to a database, there needs to be a vendor-agnostic databas…

  7. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    能够同时思考整个代码库——并承担有时在较低级别工作的初期成本,这样我就会

    That ability to think about literally the entire codebase at the same time - and to eat some of the upfront cost of sometimes working at a lower level so I wouldn't have to juggle abstractions - made my programming a lot simpler and a lot more ambitious. To me this is common sens…

  8. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    我发现我能够构建更复杂的程序,因为我积极地剔除了不必要的复杂性。结果,我能够构建一些真正

    I found that I was able to build much more complicated programs because I aggressively culled complexity that wasn't needed. As a result, I could build some really complicated stuff while keeping the entire codebase in my head at the same time. #AI

  9. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    Facebook 等公司主导了大量开源项目,这些项目是为拥有 300 万行代码库、团队遍布三大洲的项目设计的

    A lot of open source got dominated by companies like Facebook shipping projects that were designed for 3 million line codebases with teams spread across 3 continents. But that became the STANDARD architecture for every project. When I did indie game development, my process was di…

  10. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    他们:“但这使得将任务组合在一起变得容易得多——” 我:“你的 Gulp 文件大小是简单 Node 脚本的两倍。” 他们:“但是

    Them: "But this is making it so much easier to wire tasks together in a-" Me: "Your Gulp file is twice the size that a simple Node script would be." Them: "But it's easier to understand-" Me: "I have to talk to 3 engineers to update it. Look at this - do you know how it works?" #…

  11. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    当时我大部分的编程生涯都专注于如何*移除*代码。我记得曾与一家使用 Gulp 进行构建的公司合作

    A large part of my programming career at the time involved me focusing on ways to *remove* code. I remember working with a company using Gulp for their build process and I pointed out at some point - this is MORE code than you would write in a pure Node file. [...] #AI

  12. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    对我来说,这是全世界最符合常识的想法——抽象很有用,我也会使用它们,但严格来说,它们总是会增加复杂性

    To me this was the most common-sense idea in the entire world - abstractions are useful and I use them, but strictly speaking, they always increase the complexity of your codebase because now you have both the conceptual abstraction AND implementation to think about. To me this w…

  13. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] ·

    多年前,我在几个本地会议和线上会议上就过度抽象代码可能导致代码库*更难*维护性发表过演讲

    Many many years ago I gave a talk at a couple of local conferences and online about how over-abstracting code and can sometimes make codebases *less* maintainable than if you just worked closer to the metal, and I was so surprised at the time how much pushback I got about that. #…