Qwen 3.8 27B LLM 因能力获赞，但因过度思考的默认设置而受批评

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1. Simon Willison TIER_1 English(EN) · 2026-08-16 22:00

   Qwen 3.8 27B 表现出色，但默认会过度思考

   <p>Friday's big release was <a href="https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B">Qwen 3.8 27B</a>, an Apache 2 licensed 27B parameter vision-capable LLM from Alibaba's Qwen research lab. I've been looking forward to this one: 27B is an excellent size for running a model on a reasona…

2. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/Altruistic_Heat_9531 · 2026-08-17 15:36

   Qwen 3.8 27B 过度思考，必须这样做，必须过度思考才能超越 Opus 4.6

   <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Yes, it sucks to waste time waiting on 16K+ reasoning tokens alone. But here's the thing, this is only a 27B model trying to perform on par with 1T+ parameter models. Something has to be sacrificed, and that sacrifice is the amount of reasoning o…

3. Mastodon — fosstodon.org TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] · 2026-08-17 15:25

   Qwen 3.8 27B 非常出色，但它默认会过度思考 https:// lobste.rs/s/k7myyp # ai # vibecoding https:// simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/ q

   Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to wildly overthinking things https:// lobste.rs/s/k7myyp # ai # vibecoding https:// simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/ qwen-38-27b/

   链接 lobste.rs/…/k7myyp simonwillison.net/…/qwen-38-27b simonwillison.net/…/16
4. Mastodon — fosstodon.org TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] · 2026-08-17 14:39

   Qwen 3.8 27B 表现出色，但默认会过度思考 https://simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/qwen-38-27b/ # AI # LLM # Tech

   Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to wildly overthinking things https://simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/qwen-38-27b/ # AI # LLM # Tech

   链接 simonwillison.net/…/qwen-38-27b
5. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/sukazu · 2026-08-17 09:53

   非主流观点：Qwen 3.8 27b 并非过度思考者

   <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Yes it uses a ton more reasoning tokens than 3.6 did</p> <p>But test in on the same tasks with the other chinese models, glm 5.3, deepseek v4 flash and pro, etc it's really similar, and they are needed</p> <p>The reality is, we're just frustrated…

6. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/MikeNonect · 2026-08-17 08:32

   如何阻止Qwen3.8-27b过度思考

   <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>I see a lot of people struggle with Qwen3.8-27b overthinking, and I wanted to share a really straightforward fix that works for me.</p> <p>Before setting these llamacpp flags, I often had Qwen thinking for over 90 minutes, which was really imprac…

7. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/maxwell321 · 2026-08-17 08:09

   长篇评测：Qwen 3.8 27B 非常擅长利用其真实世界知识。“过度思考”使其达到 Sonnet 级别的性能，并有潜力达到 Opus 级别的结果。

   <table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1vqm51f/long_review_qwen_38_27b_is_very_good_at_tapping/"> <img alt="Long Review: Qwen 3.8 27B is VERY good at tapping into it's real-world knowledge. It's &quot;overthinking&quot; brings it to Sonnet level pe…

8. Mastodon — fosstodon.org TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] · 2026-08-17 01:20

   Qwen 3.8 27B 表现出色，但默认会过度思考 https:// simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/ qwen-38-27b/ Comments: https:// news.ycombinator.com/i

   Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things https:// simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/ qwen-38-27b/ Comments: https:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9324985 # HackerNews # Qwen3 .8 # Overthinking # AI # TechNews # Innovation

   链接 simonwillison.net/…/qwen-38-27b simonwillison.net/…/16
9. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/NelsonMinar · 2026-08-16 22:33

   Simon Willison：Qwen 3.8 27B 非常出色，但它默认会过度思考

   <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>I look to Simon for a broad survey of current LLM tech. Here's <a href="https://simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/qwen-38-27b/">his review of playing with Qwen 3.8 27B</a>. His comment <a href="https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon/117107511994840560…

10. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 (TL) · /u/LippyBumblebutt · 2026-08-16 19:14

    Qwen 3.8-27b 无法进行长思考？

    <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>I have a small coding test, where I ask a model to implement a simple CLI from a spec file. Qwen3.6-27b can do it in ~50k tokens.</p> <p>Qwen3.<em>8</em>-27b uses an absurd amount of thinking. I did a few runs, but never finished a single one, be…

11. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/germangrower69 · 2026-08-16 05:47

    有人成功在vLLM上流畅运行Qwen 3.8 27B吗？无法摆脱无休止的思考

    <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Title pretty much says it all. I’ve deployed Qwen 3.8 27B using vLLM on an RTX 6000 Pro (tried multiple vLLM releases and launch recipes), but I can't get it into a usable state because of crazy long reasoning passes.</p> <p>Regardless of the thi…

12. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] · 2026-08-17 01:52

    Qwen 3.8 27B 非常出色，但它默认会过度思考 Article URL: https:// simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/ qwen-38-27b/ Comments URL: https:// news.

    Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things Article URL: https:// simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/ qwen-38-27b/ Comments URL: https:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9324985 Points: 17 # Comments: 3 https:// simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/ qwen-38-27b/ # Tech #…

    链接 simonwillison.net/…/qwen-38-27b simonwillison.net/…/16
13. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] · 2026-08-16 23:45

    Qwen 3.8 27B 表现出色，但默认会过度思考 https://simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/qwen-38-27b/ # HackerNews # Tech # AI

    Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things https://simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/qwen-38-27b/ # HackerNews # Tech # AI

    链接 simonwillison.net/…/qwen-38-27b
14. Mastodon — mastodon.social TIER_1 English(EN) · [email protected] · 2026-08-16 22:00

    Qwen 3.8 27B 表现出色，但默认会过度思考 https://simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/qwen-38-27b/ # AI # LLM # OpenSource

    Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to wildly overthinking things https://simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/16/qwen-38-27b/ # AI # LLM # OpenSource

    链接 simonwillison.net/…/qwen-38-27b