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English(EN) Unpopular(?) opinion. The distillation claim is overblown.

人工智能模型“蒸馏”的说法受到开发者质疑

作者 PulseAugur 编辑部 · [5 个来源] ·

多个Reddit讨论认为，关于中国AI模型通过“蒸馏”西方模型实现同等水平的说法被夸大了，并且常常歪曲了技术过程。参与者认为，使用公开API输出来进行训练更准确地描述为合成数据生成，而不是真正的蒸馏（后者需要访问模型logits）。讨论还涉及训练数据来源的法律和伦理影响、闭源API模型潜在的供应商锁定问题，以及这些指控的选择性应用，特别是针对中国实验室。 AI

影响 开发者质疑人工智能模型开发中“蒸馏”的有效性和技术定义，影响了模型能力和起源的讨论方式。

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  1. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/BoogerheadCult ·

    “蒸馏”的说法本质上是荒谬的

    <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Even if China was distilling from US models (assuming all accusations are true), nothing about it makes it illegal.</p> <p>It is like saying you distilled knowledge from your professor in colleges and now he can sue you to shut down your careers …

  2. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/Informal-Trouble2183 ·

    荒谬的说法：蒸馏模型优于原始模型

    <table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1v49zi9/absurd_claim_the_distilled_model_outperforms_the/"> <img alt="Absurd claim: the distilled model outperforms the originals" src="https://preview.redd.it/fgrrhpiaiyeh1.jpeg?width=640&amp;crop=smart&amp;a…

  3. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/UsedMorning9886 ·

    关于模型“蒸馏”的指控目前被严重夸大了

    <table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1v47kp4/model_distillation_accusations_are_getting_way/"> <img alt="Model &quot;distillation&quot; accusations are getting way overblown at this point" src="https://preview.redd.it/vvybtho5uxeh1.jpeg?width=640…

  4. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/UsedMorning9886 ·

    关于模型“蒸馏”的指控目前被严重夸大了

    <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Every time a strong open model drops, the same cycle plays out: ai bro's claims it's &quot;just distilled from GPT4/Claude/whatever,&quot; case closed, move on. I think this take doesn't hold up as well as people assume.</p> <p>A few points worth…

  5. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/pier4r ·

    不受欢迎(?)的观点。蒸馏的说法被夸大了。

    <table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1v2eses/unpopular_opinion_the_distillation_claim_is/"> <img alt="Unpopular(?) opinion. The distillation claim is overblown." src="https://preview.redd.it/78mvxx799keh1.png?width=320&amp;crop=smart&amp;auto=web…

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