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New Theory Explains Muon Optimization Success in LLMs

A new research paper provides a theoretical framework for understanding the success of non-Euclidean optimization methods like Muon and Scion in training Transformer models. The study focuses on the heavy-tailed non-convex regime, demonstrating that these methods achieve optimal sample complexity by absorbing noise without additional dimension dependence, unlike their Euclidean counterparts. The findings are supported by experiments on large language models and suggest potential for other Schatten geometries to perform competitively. AI

IMPACT Provides theoretical justification for advanced optimization techniques used in training large language models.

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New Theory Explains Muon Optimization Success in LLMs

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  1. arXiv stat.ML TIER_1 English(EN) · Florian H\"ubler, Thomas Pethick, Suvrit Sra ·

    Free Heavy-Tailed Lunch for Muon: A Theoretical Justification of Empirical Success

    arXiv:2606.14560v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Non-Euclidean optimisation methods with matrix-valued updates, such as Muon and Scion, have recently shown strong empirical performance for training Transformer models, yet their theoretical advantages over Euclidean methods remai…

  2. arXiv stat.ML TIER_1 English(EN) · Suvrit Sra ·

    Free Heavy-Tailed Lunch for Muon: A Theoretical Justification of Empirical Success

    Non-Euclidean optimisation methods with matrix-valued updates, such as Muon and Scion, have recently shown strong empirical performance for training Transformer models, yet their theoretical advantages over Euclidean methods remain poorly understood. We address this gap in the he…