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MXFP8 Reinforcement Learning for LLMs: Gains, Pains, and Correctness

A new paper explores the use of MXFP8 precision for reinforcement learning (RL) in large language models, aiming to reduce computational costs. The research implements end-to-end MXFP8 RL on B200 GPUs using Qwen models and evaluates its performance across matching, speed, and correctness. Results indicate that while MXFP8 can offer speedups for certain workloads, particularly with Mixture-of-Experts models, it introduces consistency challenges and requires careful validation to ensure correctness, with some failures going undetected by standard checks. AI

IMPACT This research explores cost-saving techniques for LLM training, potentially impacting the efficiency of future model development.

RANK_REASON The cluster contains a research paper detailing a new implementation and evaluation of low-precision arithmetic for reinforcement learning in LLMs. [lever_c_demoted from research: ic=1 ai=1.0]

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MXFP8 Reinforcement Learning for LLMs: Gains, Pains, and Correctness

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    End-to-End MXFP8 Reinforcement Learning on Blackwell: What Matching Buys, When It Pays Off, and How It Fails

    Low-precision arithmetic can make reinforcement learning (RL) for large language models cheaper, but RL requires the sampler and the learner to agree. Several frameworks now run FP8 on both sides. We implement end-to-end MXFP8 RL in verl (Megatron/Transformer Engine training; vLL…