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SemiAnalysis explores advanced positional embeddings for language models

SemiAnalysis is exploring advanced positional embedding techniques for language models, moving beyond standard methods like RoPE (Rotary Position Embedding). The analysis delves into mathematical frameworks, including group theory, to understand and potentially improve how models process sequential data. While RoPE is widely used in models like DeepSeek and Qwen, the research suggests that alternative, more complex embeddings might offer benefits, though they come with computational trade-offs. AI

IMPACT Explores novel mathematical approaches to positional embeddings, potentially improving sequence processing in future language models.

RANK_REASON The cluster discusses mathematical research into positional embeddings for language models, referencing academic papers and concepts.

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    Resources mentioned:

    Resources mentioned: 🟠 Using group theory to explore the space of positional encodings for attention (blog): https://t.co/ciWX1bLAWu 🟠 Positional Encodings and Group Theory (video): https://t.co/16BvKWPBU2 🟠 RoFormer: https://t.co/ZXMDVyvCf4 (7/7)

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    If we really wanted chaos, we could learn independent embedding functions for s and t. We might call this "position invariant," and it starts to cut against the

    If we really wanted chaos, we could learn independent embedding functions for s and t. We might call this "position invariant," and it starts to cut against the purpose of a positional embedding in the first place. It does not respect translation invariance, but it could be https…

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    The weakest possible bilinear embedding that respects translation invariance is just a lookup table from the displacement to an arbitrary learnable square matri

    The weakest possible bilinear embedding that respects translation invariance is just a lookup table from the displacement to an arbitrary learnable square matrix of the proper dimension. One reason algebraic structure is often nice is that it saves computation by reducing https:…

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    What if we relax these assumptions even further? Let's stop requiring separable action. This leaves q(s)T A(t-s) k(t), where A is an arbitrary translation-invar

    What if we relax these assumptions even further? Let's stop requiring separable action. This leaves q(s)T A(t-s) k(t), where A is an arbitrary translation-invariant function that outputs a square matrix. This means we no longer require any group structure in the output space. To…

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    One function described by this math is called RoPE. It's ubiquitous in modern ML, used in models like DeepSeek and Qwen. We built a tiny Transformer that learne

    One function described by this math is called RoPE. It's ubiquitous in modern ML, used in models like DeepSeek and Qwen. We built a tiny Transformer that learned a Shakespeare dataset more quickly when we gave it positional information encoded via RoPE. (3/7) https://t.co/fiG0srS…

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    Starting with the hard part, let's write down Jane Street's math.

    Starting with the hard part, let's write down Jane Street's math. Alok Puranik explores positional embeddings that allow the attention score to be written q(s)T F(s)T G(t) k(t), where q and k are the position-free queries and keys, and F and G do the embedding work. This encodes…

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    Attention has no innate notion of time. Positional embeddings are how language models tell how far apart tokens are.

    Attention has no innate notion of time. Positional embeddings are how language models tell how far apart tokens are. A recent YouTube video by Jane Street and 3Blue1Brown explores the space of embeddings that satisfy common-sense mathematical restrictions. This space is not only…