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DeepSeek V4 Pro trails rivals in benchmarks, users question performance

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The open-source AI model DeepSeek V4 Pro is reportedly underperforming compared to other frontier models like GLM 5.3 Flash and Qwen Next in recent benchmarks. Users speculate that the model may not have been fully trained or that its performance is being impacted by technical factors such as KV cache compaction and efficient hybrid attention. There is also mention of talent departures from DeepSeek to competitors like Xiaomi, raising questions about the lab's future competitiveness. AI

IMPACT Raises questions about the competitive landscape of open-source frontier models and the factors influencing their performance.

RANK_REASON User discussion and speculation about an AI model's performance, rather than a direct announcement or benchmark release from the model's creators.

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DeepSeek V4 Pro trails rivals in benchmarks, users question performance

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  1. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/power97992 ·

    How is deepseek behind? Ds v4 pro 0813 is worse than glm 5.3 flash , qwen next and other frontier open models in benchmarks?

    <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>When will they catdh up? They were one of the top labs when ds v3.2 and v3 came out , but now ds v4 pro is worse than qwen 3,8 next in benchmarks. It seems like ds v4 pro is not trained to its full potential , but v4 flash is pretty good. Maybe t…

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