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New RODE optimizer decouples neural network training dynamics

Researchers have introduced RODE, a novel optimization engine for neural networks that decouples the radial and directional components of matrix updates. This separation allows for distinct update rules and step sizes, leading to more effective and controllable training. Experiments with GPT-2 demonstrated improvements in norm control and directional updates, while comparisons on language modeling and image classification tasks showed RODE outperforming Muon variants, achieving lower loss and final global norms. AI

IMPACT Decoupling radial and directional updates in optimizers could lead to more efficient and stable training of large language models.

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  1. arXiv cs.LG TIER_1 English(EN) · Guoxiang Xu, Bince Qu, Qi Sun, Cheng Zhuo ·

    RODE: A Radial-Orthogonal Decoupled Engine for Optimization

    arXiv:2608.21024v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Modern neural network training increasingly uses matrix-aware optimizers, yet their conditioned matrix step is typically added directly to the weight, jointly changing its norm and direction. This interaction matters because the cur…