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Qwen may revive older architecture to challenge Deepseek V4

A Reddit user speculates that the Qwen team might revive their older 397B-A17B architecture to better compete with the recently released Deepseek V4 0731 Flash. The user suggests that Deepseek V4 has become the dominant model on OpenRouter due to its optimal balance of size, cost, and intelligence for current developer needs. While Qwen has a 235B-A22B architecture, the user believes it may not be sufficient to compete on price with Deepseek V4. AI

IMPACT Speculation on model architecture choices could influence future development and competition in the LLM space.

RANK_REASON User speculation about a potential model architecture revival to compete with another model.

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Qwen may revive older architecture to challenge Deepseek V4

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  1. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/johnnyApplePRNG ·

    I posit QWEN team will dust off the old 397B-A17B architecture to compete with Deepseek V4 0731 Flash

    <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>To me, it just makes rational business sense.</p> <p>DS4 is king on openrouter and has been pretty much since the day it was launched.</p> <p>It's size, cost and intelligence seems to be the sweet spot for current developer requirements.</p> <p>Q…