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New paper decodes reasoning tokens from Claude and GPT models

A new paper has revealed a method to extract reasoning tokens from proprietary LLM APIs, including those from Claude and generative pre-trained transformer models. This technique allows for a 100% view of the reasoning process, which has implications for benchmarking, as it suggests some models may be memorizing benchmark answers rather than truly solving them. The findings also indicate that the "strange" reasoning patterns observed in open-source models are common even in frontier models, and that this extraction method may have been used for model distillation, potentially slowing down future efforts. AI

IMPACT This research could impact LLM benchmarking and reveal insights into the reasoning capabilities of proprietary models.

RANK_REASON The cluster discusses a research paper detailing a new method for extracting reasoning tokens from proprietary LLMs. [lever_c_demoted from research: ic=1 ai=1.0]

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New paper decodes reasoning tokens from Claude and GPT models

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  1. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/Zealousideal_Sort74 ·

    Hidden Reasoning from Claude and GPT are Decoded, and it is interesting

    <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Yesteday a paper showed a gap that allows to see 100% of the reasoning tokens form ALL Claude and GPT models <a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2608.09867">Stealing Reasoning Traces from Proprietary LLM APIs</a>. </p> <p>check it out, they have publi…