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New theorem reveals unavoidable tradeoff in LLM policy optimization

A new research paper establishes an impossibility theorem regarding policy optimization in reinforcement learning for large language models. The paper demonstrates that under the standard outcome reward and Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) setting, no length-based weighting scheme can simultaneously achieve unbiased gradient estimation and length invariance. GRPO approximates length invariance but suffers from gradient bias, while a proposed improvement, Dr. GRPO, achieves unbiased gradients but introduces a length bias that can disproportionately affect longer trajectories. AI

IMPACT This theoretical finding highlights fundamental limitations in current reinforcement learning techniques for LLMs, suggesting a need for new approaches to balance gradient accuracy and trajectory length considerations.

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  1. arXiv cs.LG TIER_1 English(EN) · Fei Ding, Yongkang Zhang, Yuhao Liao, Zijian Zeng, Huiming Yang ·

    On the Impossibility of Unbiased and Length-Invariant Policy Optimization with Outcome Rewards

    arXiv:2607.23364v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) is the dominant reinforcement learning algorithm for training reasoning capabilities in large language models, notably adopted by DeepSeek-R1. The recent improvement Dr. GRPO (COLM 2025) ide…