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Reddit users debate KL divergence's flaws in measuring model differences

A user on Reddit's r/LocalLLaMA community is questioning the effectiveness of Kullback-Leibler (KL) divergence as a metric for evaluating the differences between an "abliterated" model and its base model. The user argues that KL divergence is flawed due to its multiple representations, dependence on specific evaluation prompts, and the common practice of using first-token KL to artificially inflate model performance. They are seeking community input on alternative or superior methods for measuring these model differences. AI

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Reddit users debate KL divergence's flaws in measuring model differences

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  1. r/LocalLLaMA TIER_1 English(EN) · /u/AccountAntique9327 ·

    KLD is flawed in abliteration.

    <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>I've noticed while creating my abliteration engine that KL is a flawed metric because it can be represented so many different ways, it depends completely on eval prompts, and lots of people use first token KL to make their models appear better th…